Curated research library of TV news clips regarding the NSA, its oversight and privacy issues, 2009-2014

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Primary curation & research: Robin Chin, Internet Archive TV News Researcher; using TV News Archive service.

Speakers

Saxby Chambliss
U.S. Senator (R-Georgia), Vice-Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
KGO 07/28/2013
Chambliss continued 2: but if it was, it was pure accidental. Stephanopoulos: Senator Durbin, do you believe that, and second, we also want to talk about the vote referenced by Glenn Greenwald. That close vote in the house this week where the NSA bulk collection program did survive. But some of your democratic colleagues you’re going to be pushing to end it in the Senate as well, where do you stand on that? Durbin: this was an amazing vote. It came within six votes of challenging an intelligence operation. That doesn't happen very often. Hardly at all. it's an indication of a healthy democracy where the oversight
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
KGO 07/28/2013
Durbin continued: of Congress on even security issues is important. The last time I called this same issue for a vote, an amendment I offered the Senator judiciary committee, Senator Mike Lee, republican of Utah and I co-sponsored it, only one other Senator joined us in that vote. It's clear that the sentiment is growing for oversight. And I think that the efforts by Senators Wyden and Mark Udall as well as Jeff Merkley it's going to increase that effort for oversight. That's a healthy thing.
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
KGO 07/28/2013
Stephanopoulos: will you vote for that amendment? Durbin: yes, I will. In fact, I sponsored it. I really believe we should limit the-is meta data collection. The notion we're going to collect all of the phone records of everyone living in an area code on the off-chance that someone in that area code may be a suspect at a later time goes way too far. And there should be another step, these FISA courts, there should be a real court proceeding. In this case, it's fixed in a way, it's loaded. there's only one case coming before the FISA's case, the government's case.
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
KGO 07/28/2013
Let's have an advocate for someone standing up for civil liberties to speak up about the privacy of Americans when they make each of the decisions, and let’s release some of the transcripts, carefully redacted so people understand the debate that’s going on in these courts. Stephanopoulos: so Senator Chambliss, support for ending that program seems to be growing. Can you defeat the amendment, number one, and number two, what kind of reforms can you support?
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
CSPAN 07/31/2013
Durbin: In 2012, there were 300 queries that resulted in a search of records. We are told that there are three hops. In other words, If i was the subject matter of the search and i called Senator Feinstein they would accumulate all the records of my telephone calls to her and others. And then all of the records Senator Feinstein’s
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
CSPAN 07/31/2013
Durbin continued 1: telephone calls which may have include chairman Leahy. And now you have included all of his records as well. Mr. Jaffer, of the ACLU, will testify, at least speculate later that if i had an average of 40 contacts, that would mean that for my name, my query, you would accumulate 2 million phone records. 2 million.
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
CSPAN 07/31/2013
Durbin continued 2: For one inquiry. Now Multiply that in the year 2012, by 300. We're talking about 600 million phone records. Now Multiply that times seven years. So What has been described as a discrete program, to go after people who would cause us harm, when you look at the reach of this program, it envelops a substantial number of Americans. So can somebody help me with the math?
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
CSPAN 07/31/2013
Durbin continued 3: Have i missed something along the way? Or perhaps minimize that number? Inglis: Sir, if I could start apologizing for the format, the unclassified format. I’ll be discreet in my remarks but happy to follow up in any detail that you would prefer either here or at NSA. Now first and foremost, the are analysts charged to provide information that is truly useful to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And so in that regard, they try to be judicious about choosing when to do a second or under the court’s authorization, a third hop. Those aren’t always exercised.
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
CSPAN 07/31/2013
Durbin: It comes down to this, once establishing that number with al Shabab, this operative from al Shabab, you could certainly go after that person’s telephone records and all of the contacts that that person has made and his telephone records. The basic question we are faced with is, do you need five years worth of data on everyone in America and their telephone records so that the haystack which is pretty big -- Inglis: that’s a fair question.
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
CSPAN 07/31/2013
Inglis continued: if you don’t have the person’s records in the past then you can’t determine Durbin: The point that has been raised repeatedly is if we required the phone companies to retain the records for 5 years Inglis: that’s a very fair point and that is possible. Durbin: it would not be in the grasp of the government, but access by the government which serves the same purpose Inglis: I agree. But under the current legal framing the phone companies are not required to retain that for the benefit of the government. Durbin: how hard would it be? Inglis: I think it would require a legal change. I don’t think that’s hard. I don’t think that you can get there from here. You have to then
Dick Durbin
U.S. Senator, Majority Whip
CSPAN 07/31/2013
Inglis continued 2: think about the rest of the attributes that are necessary to make this a useful venture. Durbin: Sen. Feinstein said ask him about the expense. Inglis: I would say in a classified session, i can give you chapter and verse on the expense. The expenses are different depending upon whether you chose the current implementation and you chose the implementation or you leave it at the providers. The govt. requires the providers to retain those records should bare that expense.
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